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Did Allah create life?
The Quran says Allah created life. Does it mean Allah had no life till He created life? If Allah always had life, then how could He claim to have created life?
assalmu alykum
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WassalamKhadijah
Dear Sister, I did not mean to startle you with my question. I've based my question on logic. I am not a Muslim and therefore am not obliged to accept everything in the Quran on faith. At this point in time, I feel the Quranic claim that Allah created life is illogical, for the reason I have stated. I am sure you feel my position can be countered logically. I look forward to hearing from you.
aerocaria
Allah is the Creator
AslamoAlikom Brother, The word life in reference to your query, is about 'haya' which in other words means our lives and the creation of our beings. It does not mean 'existence or beginning' - Allah subhana wa taala, is by Himself the Beginning, and the ever immortal - known also as Al Qaiyum.When it states that He created life, it means that we, the humans, the nature, the animals, the earth, the heavens and hell all 'living' things were brought to life (living is a word that is derived from life). Allah however cannot necessarily be classified as 'living' as He the Creator is Divine and not related to our 'life'. That is why, we believe in the One and Only and should not compare Him to anything or anyone else, as His unique presence is the Most Dominant, Most Powerful. I hope this satisfies your question.I am posting another article about "What Quran Says About Life" for further review.Best Regards,Usman Hussain
Dear Brother Usman, I might be on the way to being satisfied with your answer. However, when you say "Allah cannot necessarily be classified as living", you could mean that we cannot compare the way we live our lives with the way Allah lives His. But surely you do not mean that Allah is not living and is therefore dead. Either Allah exists or He does not. Even if in Arabic there are different words for Allah's life and our life, can both words mean anything other than life? Please clarify.
Dear Brother Venugopal, its my pleasure to answer your questions and I thank you for asking about our religion. Both the Bible and the Quran tell us God has always existed and there never was a time He did not exit. As such, He is the Eternal, without beginning and without end. He is the only creator and sustainer of all that exists and nothing and no one exists alongside Him, nor does He have any partners. He tells us, He is not created, nor is He like His creation in anyway. He calls Himself by a number of names and three of them are:The First - (Al-Awal)The Last - (Al Akhir)The Eternal and the One who is sought after by His creation, while He has no need from them at all. (As-Samad)He is not a man and He has no progeny or offspring.He is not what He creates nor is He compared to it.He always has existed and He never was created, as He is not like His creation, nor similar to it, in any way.The Quran tells us:Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (There is no god to worship except Him), the Ever Living, the Sustainer and Protector of all that exists. He doesn't get tired and He doesn't sleep. Everything in the universe belongs to Him. Who then, could intercede between Him and his creatures without His Permission? He Knows everything about them and they have no knowledge except as He wills. His kursi (stool or chair) extends over the entire universe and He doesn't get tired of guarding and preserving it. He is Most High, the Most Great.[This Verse is called Ayat-ul-Kursi.] [Holy Quran 2:255]This verse truly presents the comprehensive representation of God in a way without trying to define Him by comparing Him to His creation, but rather as being the Absolute in all of His Attributes and Characteristics. Your Answer By Example"Can Allah make a rock so big - nothing can move it?" - If He did make a rock so big nothing could move it, would this mean He couldn't move it too? Or would it be impossible for Him to make something so big He couldn't move it?"Allah tells us "Allah is capable of doing anything He Wills to do." It should be noted in Islam we understand Allah never Wills to do anything that would make Him no longer be Allah. That is to say, He would never die as this would mean He is no longer "The Eternally Alive" (one of His characteristics mentioned in the Holy Quran).Therefore, He can make a rock (or anything else for that matter) so large or heavy - nothing in the entire universe can move it. As regards Allah "moving" it, He is not in the universe and He does not resemble His creation. Therefore, Allah is never subject to the Laws of the Creation because He is both the Creator and the Law Giver. Whenever He wants anything done, He merely says "Kun! Fayakun!" (Be! And so it will be!)Speaking about Himself, Allah says:The Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says "BE!" - and it is.[Holy Quran 2:117]She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?" He said: "So (it will be) for Allah (God) creates what He wills. When He has decreed something, He says to it only: "BE!" and it is.[Holy Quran 3:47]Verily, the likeness of Jesus before Allah (God) is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "BE!" - and he was.[Holy Quran 3:59]It is He Who has created the heavens and the earth in truth, and on the Day of Resurrection He will say: "BE!", - and it shall become. His Word is the truth. His will be the dominion on the Day when the trumpet will be blown. All-¬Knower of the unseen and the seen. He is the All-¬Wise, Well-Aware (of all things).[Holy Quran 6:73]Verily! Our Word unto a thing when We intend it, is only that We say unto it: "BE!" and it is.[Holy Quran 16:40]It befits not Allah (in His Majesty) that He should beget a son. Glorified and Exalted is He. When He decrees a thing, He only says to it, "BE!" and it is.[Holy Quran 19:35]Verily, His Command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, "BE!" and it is![Holy Quran 36:82]He it is Who gives life and causes death. And when He decides upon a thing He says to it only: "BE!" and it is.[Holy Quran 40:68]Creation as we see from these verses, is not a difficult thing for God at all. He merely gives a Command and everything comes about according to His Will.I hope this would satisfy your Question, and should you have any more questions, feel free to ask them.To Be Noted: The word "He" is used when referring to Allah out of respect, dignity and high status. It is not correct to associate the word "He" with gender, as this would be comparing Allah to the creation, something totally against the teaching of Quran.Best RegardsUsman HussainIndeed Allah knows the Best.
aerocaria
Dear Brother Usman, I admire your reply. It is the standard reply of a Muslim trying to explain matters to a non-Muslim. However, a non-Muslim often comes with his own religious view and in trying to understand Islam he tends to juxtapose his understanding with Islam’s viewpoint. Therefore you must forgive me if I seem to be somewhat incorrigible. It might only be a passing phase.You have sought to define Allah and, because of the very nature of our capacity to understand things, you have had necessarily to, as anyone else would have had to, compare Allah and man. What is apparent in the comparison, apart from the element of Allah being unknowable, is that Allah is eternal, absolute, all knowing, all powerful etc. while His creation is ephemeral and limited. The difference is one of degrees and not of kind. I give a response below to show that the difference between Allah and His creation is only a matter of degrees.
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God has always existed and there never was a time He did not exit.
Allah exists eternally, man exists ephemerally. But for at least a concurrent period, both Allah and His creation co-exist.
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He is the only creator and sustainer of all that exists
Allah is not the creator and sustainer of all that exists. The computer exists. Man created it and sustains it.
That is a very good example and I would carry the example to answer your queries. Suppose, your computer has created a website. So the credit goes to the computer or the programmer who did it. Same as if human created something.... the credit still goes to who created human.
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nothing and no one exists alongside Him, nor does He have any partners.
For a short-duration, His creation exists alongside Him. During this short period he required the partnership of Gabriel and Mohammad to herald Quran to the world.
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He tells us, He is not created, nor is He like His creation in anyway.
I contend that He is like his creation in at least one way, both He and his creation has life - only He has life eternal whereas creation’s life span is ephemeral.
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He calls Himself by a number of names and three of them are:The First - (Al-Awal)The Last - (Al Akhir)The Eternal and the One who is sought after by His creation, while He has no need from them at all. (As-Samad)
All the names He calls Himself by (or are they terms man calls Him with?) are human terms.
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He is not a man and He has no progeny or offspring.
Isn’t creation His progeny or offspring?
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He is not what He creates nor is He compared to it.
Of course, that which is eternal cannot be compared with the ephemeral but as they both need the other at least ephemerally, they can be compared as fellow travellers for a period of time.
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Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (There is no god to worship except Him), the Ever Living, the Sustainer and Protector of all that exists.
Which also means that all worship is worship of Allah except the worshipper may not know it.
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He doesn't get tired and He doesn't sleep.
But He certainly knows what it is to be tired and to sleep. For Allah cannot create what He does not know of. Moreover, to know something is to have experienced it. Why should we deny Allah any experience? We would have to say, relatively speaking He does not get tired or He doesn’t sleep.
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Everything in the universe belongs to Him.
And therefore He belongs to everything in the universe.
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Who then, could intercede between Him and his creatures without His Permission?
When there is nothing except Allah and His creation, where does the question of intercession and permission arise?
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He Knows everything about them and they have no knowledge except as He wills.
Maybe Allah might one day will totally and we might one day know everything about Him.
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His kursi (stool or chair) extends over the entire universe and He doesn't get tired of guarding and preserving it. He is Most High, the Most Great.
In using the words chair, tired, high, great etc., we are only using words familiar to man. This proves that even if Allah is beyond man’s conception, He necessarily has to be brought within the ken of man’s conception or man would miss Him altogether.
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This verse truly presents the comprehensive representation of God in a way without trying to define Him by comparing Him to His creation, but rather as being the Absolute in all of His Attributes and Characteristics.
Every single representation of Allah in the Quran is a representation of comparison to man’s reality. There is no other way for man to know Allah. Only the absolute might understand the absolute.
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Allah tells us "Allah is capable of doing anything He Wills to do." It should be noted in Islam we understand Allah never Wills to do anything that would make Him no longer be Allah. That is to say, He would never die as this would mean He is no longer "The Eternally Alive" (one of His characteristics mentioned in the Holy Quran).
If Allah cannot will anything to make Him no longer Allah, it means that Allah is not omnipotent. Allah is Allah only to His creation or in relation to His creation. What is Allah to Allah without His creation? It could be everything or nothing.
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Therefore, He can make a rock (or anything else for that matter) so large or heavy - nothing in the entire universe can move it. As regards Allah "moving" it, He is not in the universe and He does not resemble His creation. Therefore, Allah is never subject to the Laws of the Creation because He is both the Creator and the Law Giver. Whenever He wants anything done, He merely says "Kun! Fayakun!" (Be! And so it will be!)
Quoting precisely what Allah says (Kun! Fayakun!) is rather suspicious. Does Allah speak Arabic? Couldn’t He say it in a different language? Or couldn’t He say it without a language? Or need he say it at all? Can’t everything simply happen as He would have wished for it even without His wishing for it? So long as creation exists, He is subject to the laws of creation. He is also subject to what He has promised man through the Quran.
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It befits not Allah (in His Majesty) that He should beget a son. Glorified and Exalted is He. When He decrees a thing, He only says to it, "BE!" and it is.[Holy Quran 19:35]
Why should it not befit Allah that He should beget a son? Hasn’t He just to say “BE” and a son become?
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He it is Who gives life and causes death. And when He decides upon a thing He says to it only: "BE!" and it is.[Holy Quran 40:68]
When it is said that Allah gives life, I agree. He can give it because he has it. But just as, as you say, He cannot do anything to make Himself not Allah, He cannot create life. Since He is uncreated, He always has life. Creation has to be a new product. Since Allah has life, the question of His creating it does not arise.I understand that in the Quran only once does Allah speak of creating life. In all the other places He talks about giving life. Which is why I wondered if it was a mistake in the Quran.Dear Brother Usman, While I am keen to understand Islam, you should not expect me to accept Islam on faith. I do not have a need to have faith for the simple reason that I do not have any needs except the most basic of physical needs. And of these physical needs, I would have no fear or unhappiness if it comes about that I am unable to fulfill it. I would simply say, “Inshallah!”Together with you in the search of Truth.K.Venugopal
aerocaria
Dear Venugopal,It would be my pleasure to answer your questions.
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For a short-duration, His creation exists alongside Him. During this short period he required the partnership of Gabriel and Mohammad to herald Quran to the world.K.Venugopal
Everything that Allah had created is for a purpose and He choose Gabriel and Mohammad Peace Be Upon Him to spread his message. Just like a computer programmer who wants to create something and he use a computer so he doesn't necessarily need any specific computer but any Intel P4 would work, it depends on his choice which one he selects. As programmer has all the options, why would he need to do a partnership, he just have to select and give the orders to fulfill what he wants.
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I contend that He is like his creation in at least one way, both He and his creation has life - only He has life eternal whereas creation’s life span is ephemeral.K.Venugopal
When we use eternal, the meaning of word "life" vanishes as "life" is always for a certain period of time. There is no comparison of "Eternal" and "Life".
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All the names He calls Himself by (or are they terms man calls Him with?) are human terms.K.Venugopal
Allah has 99 names and all those names are his own. I mean not human terms.
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Isn’t creation His progeny or offspring?K.Venugopal
Progeny or offspring means genetic descendant. Human created computer so is this make computer, human's genetic descendant?
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Of course, that which is eternal cannot be compared with the ephemeral but as they both need the other at least ephemerally, they can be compared as fellow travellers for a period of time.K.Venugopal
This is nothing but comparing a website programmer to an internet surfer. They both may use the net but internet surfer cannot be compared with the skills of the programmer.
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Which also means that all worship is worship of Allah except the worshipper may not know it.K.Venugopal
The purpose of creation of humans is to worship Allah. And Allah had sent many messengers (Prophets) to remind people the very purpose of their lives and Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him was the last Messenger.
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But He certainly knows what it is to be tired and to sleep. For Allah cannot create what He does not know of. Moreover, to know something is to have experienced it. Why should we deny Allah any experience? We would have to say, relatively speaking He does not get tired or He doesn’t sleep.K.Venugopal
God has created in human what is best for them and necessary for their survival. If you do a mistake while using any word processor, you can Undo and continue your work. Can you do it in your real life? What is done is done and you can not change the past, but human creation i.e computer can revise its mistake. So in practical life this what you do not experience it but you know it. There are lot other many things, which you know about but practically you do not need to experience them.
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And therefore He belongs to everything in the universe.K.Venugopal
In a way that you can own a property, property can not own you.
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When there is nothing except Allah and His creation, where does the question of intercession and permission arise?K.Venugopal
This is an example for people who don't understand.
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In using the words chair, tired, high, great etc., we are only using words familiar to man. This proves that even if Allah is beyond man’s conception, He necessarily has to be brought within the ken of man’s conception or man would miss Him altogether. K.Venugopal
What if a Chinese comes to you and tells in Chinese language that you are a winner of some grand prize of 100 million $?
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Every single representation of Allah in the Quran is a representation of comparison to man’s reality. There is no other way for man to know Allah. Only the absolute might understand the absolute.K.Venugopal
An expert computer technician can understand perfectly about computer and its behavior... a computer can not understand its creator.
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If Allah cannot will anything to make Him no longer Allah, it means that Allah is not omnipotent. Allah is Allah only to His creation or in relation to His creation. What is Allah to Allah without His creation? It could be everything or nothing.K.Venugopal
My example was: " Can Allah make a rock so big - nothing can move it?" - If He did make a rock so big nothing could move it, would this mean He couldn't move it too? Or would it be impossible for Him to make something so big He couldn't move it?"Allah tells us "Allah is capable of doing anything He Wills to do." It should be noted in Islam we understand Allah never Wills to do anything that would make Him no longer be Allah. That is to say, He would never die as this would mean He is no longer "The Eternally Alive". Therefore, He can make a rock (or anything else for that matter) so large or heavy - nothing in the entire universe can move it. As regards Allah "moving" it, He is not in the universe and He does not resemble His creation. Therefore, Allah is never subject to the Laws of the Creation because He is both the Creator and the Law Giver. Whenever He wants anything done, He merely says "Kun! Fayakun!" (Be! And so it will be!)"It doesn't mean he can not!
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Allah is Allah only to His creation or in relation to His creation. What is Allah to Allah without His creation? It could be everything or nothing.K.Venugopal
Allah is Allah with or without his creation just as humans are humans without their creation. Difference is humans created things to make their life easier, Allah created humans to worship him.
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Quoting precisely what Allah says (Kun! Fayakun!) is rather suspicious. Does Allah speak Arabic? Couldn’t He say it in a different language? Or couldn’t He say it without a language? Or need he say it at all? Can’t everything simply happen as He would have wished for it even without His wishing for it? So long as creation exists, He is subject to the laws of creation. He is also subject to what He has promised man through the Quran. K.Venugopal
As Prophet Mohammad was Arab, so the language of the Quran is Arabic. Scientifically Arabic is the most scientific language on earth. That means that the composition of this language is almost free from any error and represents the meaning perfectly. Allah can do anything He wishes, not necessarily he has to say it but as he created this universe for a "reason" so whatever happens here has a reason. For example, you got promoted.. not because your GM just wants so... but he said so... here what he said is the "reason". Anything you can image is a result of any reason. You can walk... reason is friction. Aeroplanes fly, reason is air and so on. So when Allah says BE, it becomes the reason.
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Why should it not befit Allah that He should beget a son? Hasn’t He just to say “BE” and a son become?K.Venugopal
Allah has created what is best in favor of His creation. Thinking as a human prospective, humans need children to continue their heritage or to help them in their old age and many more reasons. Allah is Eternal and is free from all that.
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When it is said that Allah gives life, I agree. He can give it because he has it. But just as, as you say, He cannot do anything to make Himself not Allah, He cannot create life. Since He is uncreated, He always has life. Creation has to be a new product. Since Allah has life, the question of His creating it does not arise.K.Venugopal
From your point of view I guess that all what humans have created, they already have it. I think its not the case. As I mentioned above that meaning of word "life" vanishes when it comes to eternal. Life is to Death. Eternal is Eternal. Life is the creation of Allah. What we believe is that a human consist of two things. Body and Soul. So Allah has created body and soul and when they two have a union we call it a living person. And as the soul departs, nothing in this world can give life to a dead body accept Allah.A very simple thing to understand that, when we think about computer, we know that somebody has made it, when we think about any picture, we know that somebody has shot it and when we think about a house, we know somebody has build it. So is this universe. Somebody is there who created all this and taking care of it very well. Even super computers that have potential to control the world are not automatic and monitored and controlled by somebody. I hope this may satisfy your questions. Should you have more questions, I am there.Best RegardsUsman HussainIndeed Allah knows the Best.
Dear Usman, I am glad that you are a patient person. Though you might not accept my position and I yours, I hope our exchange puts on record the possibilities of different view points on the subject of whether Allah created life.
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That is a very good example and I would carry the example to answer your queries. Suppose, your computer has created a website. So the credit goes to the computer or the programmer who did it. Same as if human created something.... the credit still goes to who created human.
You said Allah created everything. But Allah did not create the computer. So where is the question of credit?
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Everything that Allah had created is for a purpose and He choose Gabriel and Mohammad Peace Be Upon Him to spread his message. Just like a computer programmer who wants to create something and he use a computer so he doesn't necessarily need any specific computer but any Intel P4 would work, it depends on his choice which one he selects. As programmer has all the options, why would he need to do a partnership, he just have to select and give the orders to fulfill what he wants.
The moment Allah has a purpose and He chooses assistants, he has partners fulfilling his purpose. Whether partners or slaves, he is dependent of them for fulfilling His purpose. It is more honourable to call them Allah’s partners. Otherwise the charge would be that Allah is dependent on slaves. (Dependent on the dependents?)
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When we use eternal, the meaning of word "life" vanishes as "life" is always for a certain period of time. There is no comparison of "Eternal" and "Life".
On the contrary, when we use the word eternal, we can only mean life. Life cannot die. When you and I die, it is only our bodies that “die”. (Even our bodies do not die, they transform into some other forms of life.) We, who are in essence life, take up other bodies to live. You cannot compare ‘eternal’ and ‘life’ because they are one and the same. What is ephemeral are only the forms that life takes up for living variously. We think we are limited because we identify with the body. Actually we are not limited, we are eternal Allah Himself, for we are life as Allah is.
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Allah has 99 names and all those names are his own. I mean not human terms.
By the 99 names here you mean the expressions of His totality. Of course the names fit only Allah because man is only ephemeral. Nevertheless, men too carry these names, maybe indicating the true eternal nature of man.
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Progeny or offspring means genetic descendant. Human created computer so is this make computer, human's genetic descendant?
Since Allah and His creation have a common denominator called life, Allah’s creation is surely Allah’s progeny. Progeny is not only the outcome of human sexual intercourse. Plants too have progenies. Computers are the outcome of human genius and have no common denominator with humans yet. When we are able to transmit our life into computers, then we may say computers are our progeny.
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This is nothing but comparing a website programmer to an internet surfer. They both may use the net but internet surfer cannot be compared with the skills of the programmer.
The programmer would find his job meaningless without the surfer and the surfer would not be able to surf without the programmer. Both need the other when in interaction. Similarly, Allah needs His creation and vice-versa when both are in interaction.
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The purpose of creation of humans is to worship Allah. And Allah had sent many messengers (Prophets) to remind people the very purpose of their lives and Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him was the last Messenger.
Islam says the purpose of humans is to worship Allah and be Allah’s slave. Hinduism says the purpose of humans is to discover Allah and become Allah. This is the fundamental difference between Islam and Hinduism.
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God has created in human what is best for them and necessary for their survival. If you do a mistake while using any word processor, you can Undo and continue your work. Can you do it in your real life? What is done is done and you can not change the past, but human creation i.e computer can revise its mistake. So in practical life this what you do not experience it but you know it. There are lot other many things, which you know about but practically you do not need to experience them.
What we have done cannot be changed. But we can decide to do it differently if we get another chance.
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In a way that you can own a property, property can not own you.
Owning of property is a human arrangement. And sometimes when we are obsessed with our property, then it would seem that the property owns us!
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What if a Chinese comes to you and tells in Chinese language that you are a winner of some grand prize of 100 million $?
I would not realize my good fortune, would I?
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An expert computer technician can understand perfectly about computer and its behavior... a computer can not understand its creator.
This is because there is no common denominator between man and his creations yet. But there is a common denominator between Allah and his creation and that is life and therefore each can understand the other, only man understands Allah in a limited way. I say once more, the only difference between Allah and man is that Allah is infinite and man is finite and during the period of co-existence of both the finite and the infinite, there is interplay between both.
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My example was: "Can Allah make a rock so big - nothing can move it?" - If He did make a rock so big nothing could move it, would this mean He couldn't move it too? Or would it be impossible for Him to make something so big He couldn't move it?" Allah tells us "Allah is capable of doing anything He Wills to do." It should be noted in Islam we understand Allah never Wills to do anything that would make Him no longer be Allah. That is to say, He would never die as this would mean He is no longer "The Eternally Alive". Therefore, He can make a rock (or anything else for that matter) so large or heavy - nothing in the entire universe can move it. As regards Allah "moving" it, He is not in the universe and He does not resemble His creation. Therefore, Allah is never subject to the Laws of the Creation because He is both the Creator and the Law Giver. Whenever He wants anything done, He merely says "Kun! Fayakun!" (Be! And so it will be!)" It doesn't mean he can not!
Allah is formless life and we are life forms. The common denominator between Allah and us is life. Life by its very definition cannot die. Only life forms appear to die when it changes its forms. Allah cannot will himself to die. In fact we cannot say that Allah has life. He exists. Even when there nothing, He exists as nothing. Nothing becomes Him. Why? Because Allah is Life.
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Allah is Allah with or without his creation just as humans are humans without their creation. Difference is humans created things to make their life easier, Allah created humans to worship him.
Allah created humans for Allah to take a look at Himself from a different angle. To play out the eternal possibilities. Allah celebrates in His creation. Allah does not have wants or needs like wanting humans to worship Him.
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As Prophet Mohammad was Arab, so the language of the Quran is Arabic. Scientifically Arabic is the most scientific language on earth. That means that the composition of this language is almost free from any error and represents the meaning perfectly. Allah can do anything He wishes, not necessarily he has to say it but as he created this universe for a "reason" so whatever happens here has a reason. For example, you got promoted.. not because your GM just wants so... but he said so... here what he said is the "reason". Anything you can image is a result of any reason. You can walk... reason is friction. Aeroplanes fly, reason is air and so on. So when Allah says BE, it becomes the reason.
Is Arabic the most scientific language in the world? I would like to read more about it.
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Allah has created what is best in favor of His creation. Thinking as a human prospective, humans need children to continue their heritage or to help them in their old age and many more reasons. Allah is Eternal and is free from all that.
The only difference between Allah and man is that Allah is eternal and man is ephemeral.
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From your point of view I guess that all what humans have created, they already have it. I think its not the case. As I mentioned above that meaning of word "life" vanishes when it comes to eternal. Life is to Death. Eternal is Eternal. Life is the creation of Allah. What we believe is that a human consist of two things. Body and Soul. So Allah has created body and soul and when they two have a union we call it a living person. And as the soul departs, nothing in this world can give life to a dead body accept Allah.
Life is eternal and death is life forms changing its forms. What is ephemeral are life forms. What is eternal is life. Soul is life. Allah did not create the soul. Allah is the soul. The soul in us functions in an ephemeral form. Allah is the eternal soul. In Sanskrit the soul in man is called Atma and Allah is called Paramatma.
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Originally Posted by aerocaria
A very simple thing to understand that, when we think about computer, we know that somebody has made it, when we think about any picture, we know that somebody has shot it and when we think about a house, we know somebody has build it. So is this universe. Somebody is there who created all this and taking care of it very well. Even super computers that have potential to control the world are not automatic and monitored and controlled by somebody.
If everything is created by a creator, then who has created the creator? You would say nobody created the original creator. Do you know why it is that nobody has created the original creator or Allah? It is because Allah is life and life can never be created. And Allah cannot create anything without life. Therefore all of Allah’s creation is but life itself. That is, Allah’s creation is nothing but Allah Himself in various forms.Which again means that all creation is life. And we can conclude by saying that the Creator is the creation and vice-versa. Though it may seem that we may not know the original creator except by his names Allah, God, Ishwar etc., we can logically see that there is one thing the original creator could not have created and for that very reason He is eternal – He could not have created life. And because man has life and is conscious that he has life, he can know Allah by knowing all about his life. That is, he can know Allah by knowing himself. Allah exists in all living beings.I look forward to hearing from you.With best wishes and regards,K.Venugopal
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